I recognize that Superman had better politics ages ago but as of the last 20-30 years (more so the last 20 I would imagine because of the so called ‘war on terror’), has he had good politics or just lib politics? I always got the impression even the DC universe got crafted to support US foreign policy (with nations like Qurac and Bialya which date back to the 80’s). One of the few ways I can see the comics avoiding having Superman allow the military to commit war crimes is to just basically pretend the military aren’t akin to the real world criminals or simply not talk about their actions at all (except with injustice for example where they talk about the military attempting a drone strike and superman stopping it, which would tell me the regular DC-verse superman allows them to occur). Ultimately with the government’s behavior, the DC-verse would have to either pretend it’s all not happening or that the military and the politicians in question are cleaner than they really are (so basically a lib portrayal of reality).
The movie however definitely sounds interesting from what you’ve said, and I can see why the Israeli subreddit is upset with it.
The military is usually depicted fairly kid-gloves, but then again you have organizations like Cadmus that are sanctioned by the government to kill or contain metahumans extra-judicially, so the goverment is definitely shown to be doing shady things in the shadows too.
Hmm, really it varies by writer as to how progressive he is politically. Generally his actions reflect his politics as they aren’t outright stated. However, he’s frequently championing social causes and doing things that help citizens directly but also stand in the way of regressive politicians and business leaders (Luthor being the most prominent of those). Unfortunately due to the majority of writers probably being liberal he doesn’t often get quite to socialist Superman as he was in the very beginning. So yes, lib for sure in the tone of the politics that are there. Sadly with big corporations owning these characters the amount of political dialogue allowed is abysmal.
Although, the movie is suprisingly political and makes a comment (albeit in fictional, but easily recognized pastiches) about the Israel conflict and a Superman intervention into such a confrontation. It’s refreshing to see. And from what I’ve heard it’s triggering a lot of libs, conservatives and Zionists. Apparently Fox had some particularly vitriolic things to say about the movie’s message (um, don’t exterminate people indiscriminately I guess).
I recognize that Superman had better politics ages ago but as of the last 20-30 years (more so the last 20 I would imagine because of the so called ‘war on terror’), has he had good politics or just lib politics? I always got the impression even the DC universe got crafted to support US foreign policy (with nations like Qurac and Bialya which date back to the 80’s). One of the few ways I can see the comics avoiding having Superman allow the military to commit war crimes is to just basically pretend the military aren’t akin to the real world criminals or simply not talk about their actions at all (except with injustice for example where they talk about the military attempting a drone strike and superman stopping it, which would tell me the regular DC-verse superman allows them to occur). Ultimately with the government’s behavior, the DC-verse would have to either pretend it’s all not happening or that the military and the politicians in question are cleaner than they really are (so basically a lib portrayal of reality).
The movie however definitely sounds interesting from what you’ve said, and I can see why the Israeli subreddit is upset with it.
The military is usually depicted fairly kid-gloves, but then again you have organizations like Cadmus that are sanctioned by the government to kill or contain metahumans extra-judicially, so the goverment is definitely shown to be doing shady things in the shadows too.
Hmm, really it varies by writer as to how progressive he is politically. Generally his actions reflect his politics as they aren’t outright stated. However, he’s frequently championing social causes and doing things that help citizens directly but also stand in the way of regressive politicians and business leaders (Luthor being the most prominent of those). Unfortunately due to the majority of writers probably being liberal he doesn’t often get quite to socialist Superman as he was in the very beginning. So yes, lib for sure in the tone of the politics that are there. Sadly with big corporations owning these characters the amount of political dialogue allowed is abysmal.
Although, the movie is suprisingly political and makes a comment (albeit in fictional, but easily recognized pastiches) about the Israel conflict and a Superman intervention into such a confrontation. It’s refreshing to see. And from what I’ve heard it’s triggering a lot of libs, conservatives and Zionists. Apparently Fox had some particularly vitriolic things to say about the movie’s message (um, don’t exterminate people indiscriminately I guess).