Just watched Sinners

Can anyone enlighten me on why they picked on Irish immigrants? Did blues get coopted by Irish historically?

I don’t get it

  • regul [any]@hexbear.net
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    The Irish were (are) colonized. They were originally an out-group, but were subsumed into “whiteness” at a later point in history.

    Vampirism represents this assimilation.

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      But now he’s a colonizer (in the film)

      The Irish today are some of the most respectable people against colonization. Just see their solidarity with Palestinians.

      To paint them as colonizers seems wrong and offensive

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        I think it’s more that the original Irish person is himself a victim having been assimilated into a greater vampiric colonial entity, becoming its mouthpiece and mistaking integration for liberation

        tbh that aspect of the movie is clunky as it makes it too easy to substitute “collectivist ideology” for the vampiric hivemind, especially in contrast to its glorification of bootstrapping individual heroism

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        The Irish today are some of the most respectable people against colonization.

        the irish are, irish-americans were not. american history has MANY examples of americans with irish descent (as well as irish immigrants themselves) perpetuating “anglo” style colonization; the book “the great arizona orphan abduction” details a lot of it (and it’s especially fascinating since it happened at the same time as nina).

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        Remmick had been “trapped” in the US for centuries. It’s about how oppressed become oppressor through assimilation, which many irish americans did