I’m looking around to see if it’s worth it to buy an off the shelf NAS appliance and every single review has a whole mess of comments like “DAE CHINESE COMPANY CCP”
like motherfucker you live in burger land shut the fuck up
PS: can anyone recommend an inexpensive NAS appliance that I can throw an open source NAS OS on to serve up a few mismatched hdd I have kicking around?
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buy old used one if you don’t care about transcoding stuff, it’s not like 2-4 sata box advanced a ton aside from that (if you do care about transcoding, but don’t need lots of shit in containers, smol ugreen with rockchip, allegedly, works very well with jellyfin))
In general, is it possible to load up a NAS with mismatched drives? Do they usually have general purpose drive controllers or are they special RAID only deals
Of course, unless it’s later synology when they tried to push their own drives, they are like small pc eating whatever.
Now if you do raids/zfs, they are more fussy about mismatched sizes (you will get lower of the two size likely as a result).
If you don’t care about speed of raid/zfs, you can mirror folders manually i believe with rsync or whatever
I’m on a bus so can’t elaborate, but OP should look up Snapraid for uneven drive sizes
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Mergerfs + snap raid is a popular combo for this.
Waiting for RISC-V to release me from the ARM prison
I’ve always gone with a hotswap enclosure connected to an old raspberry pi - or whatever computer I can scavenge - over USB. Probably not the most performant but I don’t use them as network mounts so its w/e.
Regarding mix-matched drives: just extend them manually with LVM and don’t fuss with anything like zfs or RAID. If you’ve got an SSD in there you can use it as a cache with LVM.
You use mergerfs/snapraid for this. You need one extra drive as big as your biggest drive to do snapraid.
Mergerfs mashes all the drives into one big filesystem, so if you don’t want file name collisions then put a unique root folder on each drive. It’s a pain if you’re serving up drives yanked directly from old pcs but it’s a blessing when you want to make maximum use out of each drives free space.
Snapraid makes a parity snapshot when you tell it to. It needs as much space as the biggest device on your mergerfs. Its perfect when you don’t care if you lose a days work and don’t need bulletproof 100% uptime. If you’re like me and use secondhand drives exclusively, it offers the ability to do n parity which will let you recover from errors that span n disks.
These two systems function independently of each other.
Set all this up on some computer with the drives in it. I think both packages support windows but I’ve only used em under linux. There are a million tutorials on this.
If you don’t have a case/psu/cables for the number of drives you need, it’s better and cheaper to find an upgrading gamer with an old one they can sell you than to get a good, functional usb enclosure. If you plan on making a hoarding habit out of this, a drive shelf and hba with external ports is an affordable solution.
Can you clarify what you mean by “HBA”?
Uhh it stands for host bus adapter I think. It’s the word for a sas add on card. They make about a million different kinds that are all secretly the same card and just have different numbers of plugs, location of plugs, card dimensions or interfaces and support different protocol versions.
An hba will let you plug up to any sas thingy and talk to it. If that thingy is an enclosure then all the drives in the enclosure will be directly addressable as if they were directly plugged into your hba inside your computer instead of connected to your computer by a wire.
Sata is physically and electrically one way backwards compatible with sas, so a Sata drive can plug into a sas enclosure but the reverse isn’t true.
I would also like to know.
Some linux or windows and mergerfs plus snapraid running on some old computer lets you make use of many mismatched drives.
Some linux or windows will give you a platform from which to enable file sharing. If you want a web management interface on top of it there’s a lot of those but it’s not strictly necessary.
Mergerfs merges several filesystems into one big filesystem. It will blob directory matches together, so if two or more of your disks are windows c drives for example it may be worthwhile to make a unique root folder on each drive that contains everything else.
It sounds complicated but actually it’s the simplest thing in the world.
Snapraid makes parity snapshots when you tell it to. It needs at least one drive to use for parity that’s as big as the biggest data drive. It’s different than real raid or zfs because the parity you can use to recover from isn’t real time, it’s as old as the most recent snapshot.
There are many benefits to that arrangement instead of zfs or real raid. If you want to know the trade offs I can elaborate.
The benefit of what’s described in all of the above is that you can use anything to run it instead of needing a nas appliance, which in my experience are hot nasty dogshit until you spend as much money on it as you’d need to get a used 1u server and drive shelf and at that point just get the more reliable, capable device with very broad documentation and widely available parts and service.
If you choose to use an old computer and just hook up all the drives, that’s great and old computers are easy to find and will work fine. The power use is truly negligible but if you were to get a smaller, ostensibly more efficient pc like a crappy little sff dell, you could slap an hba with external ports in it and attach that to some sas enclosure and use all your drives that way with (maybe?) less power draw.
E: I made the same post twice. Age is a harsh lash under which to suffer.
