What is going on, why did everyone think Israel cheated (they absolutely did, no proof needed), why can’t Iceland do better, why is Israel there, and why isn’t the winner Stereo Love every year?

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    5 hours ago

    The last good Eurovision was with Little Big with thier cheeky entry for Russia in 2020 .

    Note it is presented by MoroccanOil …which is Pissreal owned headquartered in NYC. Which init’s own way is a clusterfuck meta commentary on the whole “why is Europe so cucked to the US and Pissreal?” Question.

    Why is Israel still in Eurovision? The answer is more complex than you might think

    Having fought nazism and now living in the shadow of Soviet Russia, western Europeans saw open debate as being at the heart of serious broadcasting.

    Since then, however, this model has come under fire. In most parts of Europe, the right routinely blasts public service broadcasters as liberal mouthpieces. Many on the left see them as bastions of conservative values, defending the status quo at best or as state propaganda at worst. With its mission now contested, the EBU has its back to the wall in ways it didn’t in 1950.

    Nowhere is this more true than in Israel. In 2017, Benjamin Netanyahu abolished the old Israel Broadcasting Authority (IBA) – Eurovision in that year was its last broadcast. The reasons cited were financial, but commentators argue that it was a political move: the IBA was seen as too leftwing. It was replaced with Kan, the current broadcaster. Kan is more docile than the IBA – but still not docile enough for the government, which wants to it handed to the private sector. The communications minister, Shlomo Karhi, previously put forward a proposal to this effect in 2023, accusing the network of biased coverage and claiming that it spoke in a “disgraceful manner” towards members of the government. Such a body would be breaking EBU rules and would not be allowed into Eurovision.

    The EBU feels obliged to protect Kan, even if that means risking the Eurovision brand. That’s what it was created for: to champion “free and independent” public service broadcasting. Running the Eurovision song contest is only tangential to that mission.

  • Beetle [hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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    13 hours ago

    Israel cheated by buying targeted ads to zionists around Europe to call upon them to vote 20 times for Israel even if they don’t watch or care about Eurovision. This is why they won the popular vote this year and last year.

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    1. This year’s final was yesterday.

    2. Because they had a massive campaign to influence votes through marketing two years in a row now, and them winning the popular vote this year is sketchy. Supposedly, last year’s song, which also got very high televote results, did not chart anywhere on streaming services in spite of its supposed popularity. RTVE (Spanish public broadcasting) has launched an investigation into the votes cast from the audience, according to El Pais. And if there was no cheating, that means that either people genuinely liked the song, or that there’s enough brainwormed people to vote Israel out of the desire to take a stance for good or whatever friends of moral thinking like to preach. Also: “no proof needed” is a foolish statement.

    3. Iceland can do better, and did so at the start of the decade, but this year’s song was mid.

    4. Because Israel is a member of the European Broadcasting Union. Technically, any member country could participate. Morocco did once in 1980, for example. In practice, I have a hard time thinking they’d allow say China to join in, if they wanted… which a broadcaster from Hunan apparently wanted to do around 10 years ago.

    5. Stereo Love was never a Eurovision song. Also shame on you for great recession era nostalgia.

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      8 hours ago

      From what I understand, the Muslim nations - Morocco, Algeria, Egypt etc. Boycott Eurovision because of Israel’s inclusion

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    13 hours ago

    everyone saying as well israel shouldn’t be in eurovision. i dont watch and live in murrica but regardless i agree. just because they’re european colonizers doesnt mean “israel” is in europe

    shouldnt be on eurovision and shouldnt be on the map either

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      13 hours ago

      If they want to be Europe why don’t they go live in Europe instead of colonizing a place that other people already fucking live in. Zionists are just incredible in their hypocrisy

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    The technical reason why the Zionist Entity participates in Eurovision, as far as I remember it, has to do with the radio infrastructure built during the Mandatory period placing the colony in the European Broadcasting Area, and thus allowing it (or rather its public broadcaster) to join the European Broadcasting Union, which confers with it the right to participate in the Eurovision Song Contest. This is related to why Morocco participated in 1980, and why Tunisia and Lebanon intended to participate in Eurovision but later withdrew.

    Australia has also participated in Eurovision since 2015, despite not being a member of the EBU, because they got special permission.

    As said, though, this is the technical reason, but in this household we like to think POSIWID, in which case it’s important to remember that countries can be suspended from participating in Eurovision, and the reason why the Zionist Entity hasn’t is because its participation has always served a propagandistic role. In fact every country’s participation in Eurovision is just propaganda — pure “national branding” and spectacle under the extremely thin veneer of “apoliticality”.

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    “Eurovision is the continuation of politics by other means.” ~ Karl Von Clausewitz, probably

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    Eurovision is a song contest that hasn’t produced a single good song in over a decade where European countries for a moment become every stereotype other countries have about Europe. It’s a bureaucratic nightmare of pointless political bickering lightly coated with a layer of gay (Its only saving grace) and ridiculous costumes (This I think is a perversion. Eurovision was best when all the contestants were schlubby 40 year olds singing songs about their kids or their wives back in the 90s and 00s).
    Israel gets to be there because their broadcasting infrastructure was set up initially during the mandatory palestine period which meant they got to be in the European broadcasting union. Now that would logically also mean that Palestine should be able to, but hush your mouth those guys are brown.

    People think Israel cheated because they did, always have done, and will continue to do so. They have been given systematic unfair favorable treatment, constantly breaking the rules of the contest itself with no repercussion, even when their contestants were directly harassing other contestants. But what’s the issue this year specifically is their perennial astroturfing campaign, making big advertisement campaigns to get people to vote for Israel.

  • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    Look, you’re either white enough to get excited about Eurovision or you’re not.

    I’m not.

    edit: Okay, I was sorta interested when Manneskin was getting attention, because I didn’t think a straightahead rock act could win Eurovision post-2015. Also I may or may not have given a damn about Lordi back when they won, it was kind of a while ago.