Steam may now remove “content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content.”

So far there has been a crackdown on incest games.

Recently in the news, payment processors forced Fansly to ban substance use, furry content, hypnosis, and more. So I’m sorry hentai-free and gamer-gulag gang but I implore you to do some critical thinking and read history. There will sadly have to be a queer/pervert united front.

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    I guess this is how the US gets morality-laws-with-American-characteristics. Just another aspect of the corporate censorship and surveillance state. There’s another post on here about people having to submit photo ID in the UK to use certain sites. Plus the ad-tech computer-fingerprint tracking technology that has existed forever. I completely agree it’s going to start being used for way more invasive and damaging kinds of censorship if it isn’t already. But I doubt we’d see any article written about Steam removing a game from a sanctioned country unless maybe they’re Russian or something like that.

    I wonder if Valve has even gotten any complaints for payment processors though, or is this just preemptive or an excuse? And I wonder if this is more of a ruling-class consensus and not just an isolated instance.

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    I’m realy not sure where the intersection between hating Gamers and the shallow reasoning Visa should be the ones to set our moral standards. Like shit you must realize they’re two steps away from labelling anything LGBTQ+ as “morally deviant” too.

    Yes I’m entirely aware its whataboutism but I’m not sure there are any other points one could take. I’d rather put more direct pressure from movements and whatever direct pressure on Steam one can make rather than just looking at this as some sort of W because 4chan got their fav games banned.

    Steam says payment processors got a say but realy they got the final decision here. It makes no sense to imagine Steam agrees this is good for them in the future either. In the future what is to say games from a certain country must be banned because Visa says so. Might as well substitute that for the US State Department already.

    This is a slippery slope where a cheap W doesn’t mean its a good outlook. With still 3.5 years of Trump left and the tariff shit still going I’m not surprised if eventualy they force region locking by default. Oh you’re Brazilian? I’m sorry you can’t buy because Visa doesn’t allow this game to be sold over there and Visa also says local payment systems should be banned(literally current news).

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    This is really not good. Steam is by far the largest pc platform and where most indie games make the majority of their money. The likelihood of indie LGBTQ+ games getting banned over completely benign “sexual content” is huge.

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      Yeah, I think it’s very telling that these payment processors never apply pressure to remove the racist, misogynist, violent shit on sites like Pornhub. There is no genuine moral dimension to this, it’s about punishing “freaks” and “weirdos.”

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        Yeah, I think it’s very telling that these payment processors never apply pressure to remove the racist, misogynist, violent shit on sites like Pornhub.

        They did. Pornhub responded by… becoming a front-end payment processor itself.

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          Valve could easily just go this route and extend this to be a service for the entire industry, and be almost universally lauded for saving everyone while simultaneously ratcheting their monopoly up a few notches.

          Or, they could just do nothing and let the money printer keep flowing indefinitely, so it’s just gonna be that.

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      Yeah, same idea with all the laws trying to equate trans people and homosexuality to “child endangerment” or straight up pedophilia: the goal is to set precedent for removing queer content

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    i wonder if this explains why there aren’t any games that are outside the US imperial box when it comes to violence and what not… there should be all kinds of 9/11 games and destroy the USA games… but you won’t find any

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    content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers

    Why would these companies set these standards? Its not like the average consumer cares about whether their payment processor lets them pay for both cod and nekopara.

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      My understanding is that there’s been legislation over the past couple years under the guise of being anti-human trafficking which targets payment processors for anything related to sex work. The processor companies have attempted to just get as many people to switch to PG content proactively instead of having to change their internal systems to comply with new standards. IIRC this happened a couple years ago to Patreon

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      I’m not going to hold the developer of whatever godforsaken game is listed responsible until MasterCard is brought to justice for letting me use my bank/money to buy it!

      For real though this is obscenely necessary for steam. All sorts of Hitler dating sims and other morally repugnant shit

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        They’re not even gonna go after the stuff that’s actually repugnant.

        A handful of slop asset flips with taboo subject matter will get smacked. (Most of the banned titles are incest themed.)

        Then this will quietly just become a background part of the behind the scenes process used to go after LGBTQ+ content just like it has every single time.

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        All sorts of Hitler dating sims and other morally repugnant shit

        they absolutely do not give a fuck about these. they’re going to use this as baby steps towards forcing steam to purge queer content.

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    Jarvis, generate a meme using the “the myth of consensual sex” template, where the consenting parties are labeled “Steam” and “Gooners” and Jesus is replaced with Visa and Mastercard